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 4-2-1 Headers and Exhaust systems...

 

Triumph Sports Six Club (UK) Bell exhaust manifold above. I'm not selling these, only studying them for my own car. www.tssc-hq.demon.co.uk/offers.html

Hot tip: For $0.079 per minute to Triumph Sports Six Club in England, dial 101-6868 first, then the 011-44-1858-469693. It really works! No switching companies. Top rated in Consumer Reports. Works in the US and Canada also. 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Call 1-888-660-5377 for details. This isn't an advertisement, I'm only trying to pass on good information I've found.

 

 

 
Note header design in above system and resonator.

 

Rimmer Brothers (UK) stainless systems and headers above. I'm not selling these, only studying them for my own car. www.rimmerbros.co.uk

Hot tip: For $0.079 per minute to Rimmer Brothers in England, dial 101-6868 first, then the 011-44-1522-567600. It really works! No switching companies. Top rated in Consumer Reports. Works in the US and Canada also. 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Call 1-888-660-5377 for details. This isn't an advertisement, I'm only trying to pass on good information I've found.

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So here's what I ordered... (the Rimmer system, above left)

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I knew that spare head would come in handy someday! Surprised it wasn't buried where I couldn't get to it. Don't mind the clutter. I should have hung a sheet off the bench, but.... By the way, this header looks to be identical to the TSSC one, but the price was much lower from Rimmer Bros. Anyone that knows if they are the same, please let me know.

I'm concerned that the way the pipe is heading uphill that it won't fit without some bending (see below, probably ok).

Hmmm.... guess what? The engine as installed in the car tilts to the rear, so the header compensates for that! 

This should be the quietest of the stainless systems offered by Rimmer Brothers. Quiet is good!

The package arrived (large box in background with appendage) 1 week and 1 day after calling in the order.

 vroom, vroom….

Outdoor shot not showing the cars in storage there. The header bolts to the head quite well. The piece that services cylinders 1&4 fits only with some persuasion, ala wishbone stretching. The jig that makes this piece needs adjustment as the same problem occurred with a set bought at the same time by Dave Belden for his Mk3 racecar (see it at Lime Rock this Labor Day weekend). It's about 1/4" too tight to go over the studs. Once on, everything seems fine. The 2-1 pipe takes an upward slope that has me somewhat concerned (but the engine/transmission is mounted on a downwards slope in the car, I'm told, so it should be ok). I have to have faith in the design is correct and it will fit (however, see Dave's emails below). I don't expect to install it this year, will may have the header powder coated first.

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Correspondence with Dave on his fitting header

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Ordered header by phone to Rimmer Brothers, Monday, 8/2/1999

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Date: 8/10/1999 7:07:42 PM Eastern Daylight Time

Clark The box was here when I got home an hour ago. The headers look good, though I haven't had time to really try them on (I've got the others bolted in place so that I could get the engine going and make sure that it ran.)

Thanks again for your help.

Dave

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Date: 8/12/1999 10:06:35 AM Eastern Daylight Time

Clark I am working on it right now. (I was up at NHIS yesterday for the vintage oval track cars with my buddy who has a Kurtis midget, so I didn't work on it until this AM.) The outer Y pipe, the one for 1 and 4 ports, didn't quite line up with the studs; the Y was a little tight. But, with the judicious application of some heat and the plastic hammer, it looks as though it fits fine now. I'm waiting for it all to cool down before I start bolting it up with the intake. It certainly looks like the collector fits up underneath nicely, and routing the pipe rearward from there ought to be easy, but I haven't tried it yet. I'll give you progress reports.

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Date: 8/24/1999 7:59:54 AM Eastern Daylight Time

Clark Progress isn't what I'd hoped, which is why I haven't gotten back to you earlier. I'd sort of wanted to be reporting on a running, on the ground car, but I still don't have one.

I was slower with the exhaust than planned because rather late in the game I remembered that I'd better get a muffler. So I ordered a Supertrap from Racer's Wholesale middle of last week. The price was good, but the overnight delivery wasn't cheap. In any event, I got the whole system on the car and it looks and sounds pretty good. I found the same problem that you did with the collector kicking up into the top of the tunnel. My solution was to heat each of the Y pipes at their last kink, and bend them down slightly there. This worked pretty well. I was careful not to bend them too much, and the whole collector is close to the top of the space, but as you suggested, with heat and time it will form to fit.

The only other things I did were spread the 1/4 Y pipe a little with the rubber mallet, and heat and lightly bump in the weld area on each of the Y pipes where they touched one another. All in all I think it is going to be a nice installation at a decent price. Thanks for the help.

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